Tips From the Independent Producer: Get It Out There

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As an independent producer/engineer, I work in a lot of different capacities on a lot of different types of projects. Sometimes I’m just putting a mix on something someone else has recorded, and sometimes I’m intimately involved with every aspect of a project from a piano/vocal demo through to mastering. Most projects fall somewhere between those two extremes, and as such I’ve gotten to work with a lot of different types of artists.

No recording is going to be the perfect, end-all statement on a particular song.

I’m currently working with an artist who’s been working on the same record on and off for close to two and a half years. We’ve spent well north of a thousand hours on this project over that period of time. We’ve produced the record once, completely remixed it twice, and are currently on our second round of mastering. It’s an epic project, sort of insanely so.

(I want to take a sidebar here to say that, in this very specific case, it may actually end up being worth it, because the artist in question is extraordinarily talented, is doing something musically unique, has a tremendous long-term vision, and has raised herself a formidable budget. She wants to debut this body of work at Disney Hall with a 100-person dance troupe, and you know what, she’ll probably pull it off. She’s one in a million.)

But what about the rest of us? What about normal artists, singer-songwriter types, who have written some songs on their acoustic guitar, who don’t have infinite budgets, and who are embarking on making recordings? Is this type of obsessive long-term epic recording project healthy? Is it a good idea to take a long time making and releasing recordings?

I want to make the argument that no, it’s absolutely not. In a recent and somewhat related piece, I talked about how it can be difficult for budding artists/producers to know when a recording is finished. In a computer-powered world of infinite possibilities, it’s all too easy to become paralyzed. What if I change this drum sound? What if that acoustic guitar were an electric guitar? Now what if it were a piano part instead?

You can go in circles. Any song can be recorded and re-recorded in any one of a thousand ways. No recording is going to be the perfect, end-all statement on a particular song. We’ve all heard enough great cover songs to know this to be true. So why on earth should we be obsessing and reworking and exploring every option? It’s so time-consuming. And our time is limited, and should not be wasted.

So I want to use my space here today to encourage you when you’re working on recordings to:

a) choose a path,
b) go down it as purposefully and efficiently as possible until you’ve finished what you’ve started, and then
c) put it out in the world asap and move forward.

This last point deserves a little expanding upon, because I think it’s the most important point here. Your goal as an artist is to tell a story of yourself, and to get that story in front of as many people as possible. To do that, you need to have your work out there, working for you. Every day that you’re revisiting a work in progress is a day that it isn’t out there in the world doing the work you need it to be doing on your behalf, pushing your story forward.

None of us is getting any younger. Time is fleeting. The best time to put out work is when it’s fresh—not just fresh for the world, but fresh for you. Because you’ll be more excited about it, and therefore more enthusiastic about it, and therefore you’ll tell your story in a more compelling way.

Further: I have this idea that the best records are snapshots of where the people who made it were at a particular moment in time. If you take too long working and reworking a record, by the time you put it out, that record may well no longer reflect who you are as a person. And I think there’s a real danger there.

My obsessive friend has devoted three years of her life so far to this record of hers. By the time she puts it out, it’ll probably be closer to four. That’s over 10% of how long she’s been alive. Will the record even still be relevant at that point to who she is as an artist or as a person, four years or more after composing this body of work? I think that as a unique, extreme situation, it’s a good opportunity for some abstract reflection. She’s betting that it’s going to work for her, and I’m taking that bet with her. But I’d also bet that taking four years to make a record won’t work for most people.

Indeed, I’d suggest that for most people, taking any significant amount of time to put out a recording could be a significant impediment, perhaps even a career-killer. Forward momentum is a real thing.

So: make lots of recordings, make them quickly, get them out in the world quickly, and continue to build your story. That’s my thought for the day. Let me know what you think in the comments!

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Jamie Hill

About Jamie Hill

Jamie Hill is a record producer and music engineer, currently living and working in Los Angeles. He was nominated for Best Producer in the 2014 Independent Music Awards, and is married to singer-songwriter and house concert pioneer Shannon Curtis.

Jamie can produce or mix your record. Contact him at jamie@secretagentaudio.com.

4 Comments

  1. Shaun Church on April 9, 2015 at 9:24 am

    Sound advice about just getting it out there. From first hand experience: after years of not putting any music out because it wasn’t good enough I decided it was time to get over it and just do it. I recorded an EP in a few days and started playing some open mics. Ended up winning a competition, and playing support sets for The Subways and Jon Gomm within the space of a few months. Completely changed how I think about making music and sharing it with the world. Can’t recommend this enough.

  2. Casee Wilson on April 9, 2015 at 9:29 am

    I think it’s tricky. I tend to push recordings out pretty quickly, but one thing a lot of the advice guides for musicians say is that if you push too early, and put out something that maybe is as polished as you could achieve for the time but ISN’T polished enough to compete in the marketplace, you are shooting yourself in the career somewhat. It’s a continual learning curve too, projects that I was really proud of when I first released them are certainly not as good as the writing and producing I’m doing now, because I’ve grown as an artist. The problem is, I think that there’s a lot of pressure for artists to show “perfect” work on the first go to be taken seriously. Because the music industry has changed so much and so rapidly and is now so much more accessible to a wider range of artists, the market is now flooded with independent musicians, all competing for attention, which puts a lot of pressure on the less confident artists who are afraid to publish anything that could harm their chances. Me, sure, I have some regrets that I have put things out maybe a bit before they were ready, but I’d rather regret what I tried than what I didn’t. And I think it’s cool for people to see how I grow and change. But perhaps that’s just me! Anyway, thanks for a thought provoking post!

  3. Jules Bryant on April 17, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    Interesting points made and the 2 perspectives from the comments above.I think there comes a time when you have to say ‘enough is enough’ and get something out there, but as Casee mentions from experience, you don’t want to put work out there that could be detrimental to your practice as a musician and your reputation. This can be difficult when starting out as your output can be changing at quite a fast pace and what goes out one month can be greatly improved by new material a few months later. With the digital age and the internet, once the work is out there it is almost impossible to remove the shadow that it leaves and you do have to be very conscious of the fact that copies of work can be anywhere. That said, I certainly would not want to be in the position where I don’t put my work out just because I know that something better may be coming along later. In the end I think I work it till I’m comfortable, publish and move on.

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